Friday, 26 July 2013

Getting the Modified batteries to work on the tools!

Ok so I had one oversight in the battery modifications... The newer tools require the 3rd pin on the tool that is switched by the onboard chip and has to have voltage on it to enable the tool to be switched.  This is done so the tool is electrically isolated when the batteries parameters such as over current, temperature and under voltage.  

So as I have modified the batteries without using the onboard chip but the batteries fail to work in these tools! 

There were multiple solutions to this!

Solution #1

The first solution was to link the Positive rail and the control pin so that there is voltage on the pin so it will work in the tool.  The only problem in my case was some of the chips had the small pin and still did not work as they were not making connection!

Solution #2

Modifying the tool. This was something i didn't want to do but in the end became the easier method. Because i had several batteries that had the older style board with the shorter control pin it seemed to be the logical method.  However i will look into fixing the board so that my batteries will work in everyone's tools not just my own modified ones.

This picture shows the modification of the tool.



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24 comments:

  1. Matthias8 November 2013 at 07:57

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  2. Matthias24 November 2013 at 02:34

    Hi,
    well done and thought out.

    I had a slightly different approach to buy a RC lipo battery + charger for about 70 euros and buy the makita 456 for another 65 euros:
    this is the somehow funny looking result:

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  3. Unknown10 February 2014 at 13:16

    Broke the yellow plastic covering the 7 pins which are now bent and twisted. Is this possible to replace?

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